Thursday, June 13, 2024

Should we have the discussion or just reinforce the ramparts of our battle line?

 In the course of various discussions concerning mainly the ordination of homosexuals, I have repeatedly stated that we have not had the full discussion on this topic. I have proffered my local practices for consideration. I have likewise spoken about this issue on the denomination level.

I am not sure that I have the best answers, but I will have the discussion. I will listen to my fellow believers. I will try to understand the crux of every issue. I’m not going to retreat to my battle lines without seeking a true discussion.

I know how I see this issue. It’s clear-cut but complicated. The more clear-cut it becomes the more complicated it gets.

Some say that we have discussed this.  Committees at various levels of our judicatory system have had some discussions, but the denomination as a whole has not. We have done an injustice to many by avoiding it.

The more that I know I am right and in agreement with God, the more I see my hypocrisy.

The discussions that we have entertained have mostly been the dialogue of the deaf. We draw battle lines and set up philosophical camps without talking much about the subject.

Some talk of leaving the denomination. Some talk of taking some folks with them. For a connectional church, we seem to be as divisive as our nation. Should we not have more accord among us?

Are we seeking God’s will or just seeking to have our own way? Is anyone other than me sick of this age when civil discourse seems to be dead, buried, and without hope of resurrection?

We launch amendments and memorials that address a slice of this issue while leaving the rest unaddressed. We have done an excellent job of putting this off for longer than most denominations. We as Cumberland Presbyterians have become Practiced Procrastinators.

Let’s just see where we stand and what we need to discuss.


Homosexual Questions

 

Basic Questions

May they attend services?

May they sing a special?

May they join and become members?

May they serve on teams and committees?

May they serve as ushers and greeters?

May they serve as acolytes?

May they sing in the leading choir?

May they lead a team?

May they chair a committee?

May they serve as missionaries?

May they serve as Sunday School or VBS teachers?

May they hold denominational offices?

May they be ordained as deacons?

May they be ordained as elders?

May they be ordained as ministers of word and sacrament?

 

Groupings

If your answers were not all yes or all no, where is the dividing line and what are the criteria?

 

Repentance and Continuation of the sin. I think most will find that God’s word declares homosexual practices to be a sin. We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, so why is this sin disqualifying some from certain positions or roles in the church body?  Most would say because there is no repentance and the continuation of the sin following ordination (or other position of trust and service).

This begs the question, how is this different than other sins that continue in the life of the believer?

Divorce?

Divorce and Remarriage?

Gluttony?

Drunkenness?

Laziness?

No repentance

How do we test or measure repentance?

How is the believer’s struggle with the old self different here than in other areas?

Relapse

Perhaps the church term is backsliding.  How do we deal with someone who said that they had left sin behind them but has relapsed?

Counseling?

Disciplinary action?

Suspension?


Some theology queries


Does God’s grace reach beyond the sins of homosexual conduct?

Can I truly believe and take the yoke of my Master and learn from him if I am homosexual?

Does the repentant homosexual have a new identity in Christ even if he/she relapses?

 

Following repentance, is it one and done for the homosexual, three strikes you’re out, or some other formula not applied to other believers who give in to the old self?


We understand that the only way we can be perfect (complete) is through and with Christ. We all continue to have some sin in our lives but have the assurance of pardon when we confess. Must the homosexual correct his behavior completely before receiving the grace of God that we know in Christ Jesus?


 

To Wrap Up, Not Really

 

I am sure these questions will lead to others. That is the nature of discussion.  Are our hearts so hard that we can’t even discuss this topic? 

 

 

Discussion does not mean we abandon what we believe. It means that we are confident enough in our belief in God and trust him enough to listen to others, present what we believe, and do our best to be faithful to God and his directives which are all rooted in love as we go forward.

 

Comfort lies in insisting on our own way. Do we have the courage to have a discussion?

 

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